A few weeks ago, I had the honor of speaking with Dave Hess, who leads campus ministry efforts for Freedom Church in Philadelphia and serves as a regional director for Every Nation Campus North America. Dave asked me to join his podcast to speak about discipleship and leadership.

When I asked Dave what he thought might be most helpful for leaders to hear right now, he mentioned our discussion on cultivating and maintaining friendships. Good relationships are foundational to our ability to sustain in life and ministry—with God, of course, but also with other people. But maintaining long-term relationships is almost always challenging. At some point or another, many of these relationships will involve two difficult things: repentance and forgiveness.

I hope my discussion with Dave will encourage you as you seek and build long-term relationships.